See my full review of the Voodoo Blues set here. The fat 50s could be a good option in the neck and mid too right? I put new strings on. Since I cannot just runout and buy a new guitar anymore (living on disability) I will have to mod what I have. I started with a 50’s Roadworn Black Strat/ Maple neck, all Nitrocellulose finished. This is a versatile set covering most of David Gilmour’s tones as well as just about everything else. Will the SSL5 get me close to a P90 sound? That’ll give you the best of both worlds :) – Bjorn]. I'm thinking of adjusting the HSS on my american special. – Bjorn]. David did use 71 pickups on Dark Side and WYWH, which I guess are more or less identical to the current Fender CS96s. p.s. See the feature above for details. How’s your string action and pickup height? – Bjorn]. Two weeks ago, I bought a second-hand Laney L20 head with a Masrhall Haze matching cab. Just an FYI for people as a resource. Mine’s being done with custom wound Fralins as we speak! ), and as I’ve mentioned, the original pickups from the black Strat were sent to Lindy to be rewound, and they are still wound from that rewind. Classic, vintage Strat tones with, compared to the CS69s, higher output, boosted mid range and an overall warmer tone. It has the shortened trem arm and green numbering on the nobs. Your Bass strings have more mass and will disturb the magnetic field more than treble strings. – Bjorn], Hi Bjorn, thank you very much indeed! Measuring pickup height in relation to the open string may result in certain notes fretting out in the higher frets. [I’d use 250k. Quite not a friend of strat shape, tele feels much better in my (!) The wah will alter the fuzz even when it’s off, so it’s best to have this after. If you’re using the original Duncan cover, it will fit properly on the pickup. :). Very different from the DG20, which has a darker more mid rangy tone. Did the same improvement earlier this year and it’s just flat out better as to be expected at that price ;) It’s a matter of taste and either yu like it or not. D Allen Echoes set I’d like to put similar into my Tele and hope to get just a little closer to the master’s wonderful sound. My apologies if this question has already been asked. 1.) I do want to try and get as close to David’s Red Jedson tone as I can. Check out the Klein handwound set modelled after the black strat https://www.kleinpickups.com/p-105-s-8-stratocaster-set.aspx. It’s my first guitar. So, will it make any difference swapping them out in favor of the 69s, or is it just a wast of money? It had a master tone, and blender pot, and was wired so he could play it with his awesome splitblade as a single coil, not a tapped humbucker, and with a push on the blender pot, the second single coil kicked in, and it sounded like a grear humbucker! Good point. I remind here my stuff: [I guess RWRP is about taste and preference. So I just finished my first Black Strat build. I play a Diamond Series 006 Deluxe with factory pickups. The P90s are single coils but wound very hot for a tone that’s right between a hot single coil and a mid 50s humbucker. Also says that lower string height will have more pull. Do you have any idea what kind of Strat pickup is in the neck? EMG, among others, started to offer active pickups in the late 70s. Hi Bjorn I am still experimenting! Hi, had some issues with the spam filter. A bit thin in the lower frequencies but this can be compensated by installing an even hotter bridge pickup. Got it, thanks! I don’t have any other strats, but I could go to a store and play a few, or rent one or two for a few days and play ihem, as for comparison, they sound way superior to what i remember from what was installed stock in my mexican start that I bought used. The DiMarzio True Velvet, although a bit hot, would go nicely. I’ve gad his Vintage hots in my Rodriguez since it was built, and they are absolute perfection of Vintage Fender tones, with 6.0 neck, 6.0middle, and 6.8 bridge, which us very close tot DG’s early ’70s pups. Morten. Keith. Are there any other little things that I have missed out? not sure yet if I will go with the Chopper, maybe I should give it a try. Keep in mind though that a humbucker does sound very different from the guitar you have but I use humbuckers a lot and with some tweaking you can easily get some really nice Gilmour tones, and lots of other tones obviously, with them. My black guitar is a korean 1987 Squire Strat and the amp that I use to test it not is the best (Roland Cube Lite), I know, but I’m a bedroom player that have pass the last 13 years at the bed, and having better amps too, but here is where I can play my guitars and have my gear more accesible. Kinda flat, no soul in it. I think that’s about right. I tried the Fender NOISELESS and I DID NOT LIKE FOR ANYTHING, HOWEVER INSTALLED A noiseless SEYMOUR DUNCAN STK S4 IN NECK AND MIDDLE AND A STK S6 IN BRIDGE AND WORK VERY WELL WITH THE BIG MUFF AND OVERDRIVES ALTHOUGH THEY ARE A BOTH INSULS FOR THE CLEAN PARTS. Gilmour tones: Black Strat all eras. Hendrix Axis tones all day with a decent early ’60s bridge sound. TIP: Be careful with Strats especially, the pickups set too close can pull the strings and create a multitude of problems (3 pickups = 3 magnets on one string!) I now have the second tone dial to control the bridge pick up. You may also want to check out the D Allen Blues Cat set, which is very close to the custom wounds that I got :) – Bjorn], Hey Bjorn, do you know which one of these Tele pickups would fit Animals tone ? Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head Sorry for so many questions. – Bjorn], Hey bjorn! Right now Gilmour uses SSL-1C-DG or SSL-5 ? I only practice at home and in bedroom. EMG DG-20 set I’m thinking of having a pedalboard with 6-8 pedals including 2-3 OD/DIST pedals maximum. A noise suppressor will work but regardless of the model you need to be careful with the settings. Definitely gets you close to that warm mid-rangy PULSE tone. On my amp even if I put the volume on max I would have to have the gain knob at about 9.00 o’clock to hear my guitar but if I put the gain knob to max it sounds pretty distorted and loud and if I even use overdrive and distortion pedals at that setting it will sound pretty horrible. I’m old school when it comes to pickups so personally I’d go for some PAF/57s. I Like the sound of the neck and center pickups. Hi, Also, which combo gives more variety in it’s tones; I play more than just Gilmour inspired stuff – when it isn’t Gilmour/Pink Floyd, I listen to Southern type stuff like the Allman Brothers and the Black Crowes. Inspired form Gilmours great tones and of course your great reviews I have been in search of the components of my new strat! 2- Do you recommend BK tube driver using Laney CUB12r amp ? Depends on what you’re combining them with. I put that set into my black Strat and they are very good, depending on amp you can also achieve very good srv tones with the magic switch engaged. So I then decided to follow your recommendation and order them but I had to wait for over half a year for them to arrive because after a long back-and-forth email session with Jose from Planet tone, I found out USPS had lost my package and then found it again after a couple of months and so I had to contact a friend from the States to bring them here personally because I couldn’t trust USPS anymore. – Bjorn], Thanks… What do you think a combo of 69s with Texas Special bridge would do? I installed the new pickups and, at the same, I also shielded the cavity with some copper tape as recommended on Kit Rae’s website. I see some new Seymour Duncan Custom Shop Gilmour sets of 3 out on the market now, but I thought I would ask your opinion. I want to upgrade my MIM Fender with some new pickups. The humbucker should give you enough mids and compression anyway. It depends on how much different tone you want. The right pedal will give you all the punch, and aggresiveness you need. I haven’t tried any of their stuff but I know lots of people are happy with it. Definitely put your bass through its paces and adjust as necessary. Just got the 50s RI neck with the vintage tuners….aged alder solid piece cut to American strat specs….vintage style trem…. Should notice a considerable higher output and a darker tone than the stock pickup. Did you already test it? I imagine if Gilmour releases another album this or maybe next year and uses a black strat with a totally different setup, with other pickups… HAHAHA.. a lot of people, just like me, trying to change everything again! Check out my clip of Time here, played with PAFs and the AnalogMan Boss DS1. The EMGs and other so-called noiseless pickups are great but they sound different. Also, adding an EQ can simulate the DG20s to some extent, at least give you a bit more presence or scoop, but it won’t be just like having the EMGs obviously. And this Guitar sounds bright enough, but i have sometimes the feeling that i have to “fight” a little bit more for some sustaining lead tones compared to the SSL 5 one, whose tones will come out and stay a bit easier, but that is just my opinion….. Another Question to you, Bjorn. [Keep in mind though that shielding will only eliminate the buzz. So, to answer your question: Texas Specials are hotter than any stock, vintage Strat pickup I know of, especially that 7.6k bridge pickup, but as far as all pickups go, they are considered low/medium output! The typical 50 or 60 cycle hum is hard to eliminate. Hard to hear all the details and the fact that all the tones has the Leslie cab going makes it difficult but I would say that the rhythms 2 is just the bridge and the arp2/outtro is also just the bridge. They nail all of the early and latter tones and they’ll do a pretty nice job replicating the 80s and 90s as well. Each pickup is unique in structure and performance. Usually, the gain is the volume for the pre-amp and the master, is the output volume. The only issue I am having is the guy at the guitar store said the custom shop 54 were more Gilmour of that era! Most of the models will be able to cover a wide range of other genres and tones as well. Depends on waht tones you want. As for the pedals, you should be able to get the tones you want with at least the 808 and phase90 and , depending on the amp, the Fuzz Face. However and as you point out, there will be some high end roll off. Is their any sss single coil noiseless pickups I can use on a strat to sound like gilmour on animals wywh dsotm era? The SSL5 is a bit too hot and dark for the neck and middle for my taste. Finally, there's the double locking Floyd Rose vibrato and HSS pickup spec model. See my review here. I’ve got a Fender American Deluxe with the S1 switch and noiseless pickups. The sound is fantastic. Great tones and several modes for different delay types. dyna comp, vox wah, phase 90, ts808, Dunlop mini silicon fuzz, then a few old ones from earlier days… (all early 90s) boss sd-1, boss eq, boss flanger, Marshall shred master. Maybe it’s my really sensitive, ( nit to be confused with educated) ears, but I hear a very modern sound whenever I hear those RedStrats, and think truly vintage pickups are better all the way around. I am using the Fender CS TexMex but I want a more agressive sound for the bridge pickup closer to gibson P90 (8k output more or less, vintage sound) which is my favourite pickup at the moment. Awesome! Guess Dave didn’t want to put in the Phase 90 in the pedalboard just for SOYCD :D. Actually, he did use a Phase 100 for Syd’s Theme on the first 2-3 shows on the European leg on the Animals tour but this was soon ditched. Hello, Bjoern. Depends on what guitar and amp you have but in general I would say a full set of Fender CS69s or something similar like the D Allen Voodoo 69s. Not only that, my whammy bar was pulled all the way down. I think its a good set for the money, its not my main guitar but is a handy backup. That pick up change has made all the difference though and am really enjoying playing this previously unloved guitar. But Im kinda at a loss for amps. I am not a good player and can’t “build” it on my own, so dropping in a loaded set works best for me. Do you still recommend the Classic Series 50’s Strat?, then replace the pickups, bridge, pots & caps, etc. You could go for a mix though, like Texas Special bridge, 69 middle and Fat 50s neck. I think the price is a bit too much but then again, you would get some customized items. Others, like Kinman, has succeeded in making noiseless pickups with a twist on the basic, vintage design using iron and differential winding techniques in the noise sensing coils. I will keep experimenting, thanks again. [They’re very similar. The wires should be reversed when installed with teh CS69s but based on how you describe the tone, your tech has already done that. The set I’m thinking to get is the ‘hot custom’ set with 5.8k neck and middle and 13k hot bridge. Happy to help :) – Bjorn]. I have a USA Pro Strat with V-Mod pickups and like how they sound but have no prior experience with Strats or other pickups so I don’t know how they compare with others. Also, the whammy worked like it should. – Bjorn], You have an awesome site going here, very informative. I had this same problem…. Almost there….it’s been long but very close! Thank you for this site, I have learned allot and always trust your reviews. I’m wondering if it could be a noiseless alternative for the SLL-5 or FS-1…. The problem is, my Silhouette has a volume control and just one tone control. – Bjorn], Hey Bjorn, i sent you a message in july asking what was the closest tele bridge pickup to the S.Duncan SSL-5, you told me there was one in their range and i should ask them. Im looking to offload my EMGs from the red strat and I cant think of anything better than another set of Nicos. They can cut up some harder stuff as well, very versatile. I have an issue I`m hoping you can advise me on……I have a MusicMan Silhouette I purchased new in 1993. I finally got one not too long ago and after installing and playing with it for a while I had a little bit of a feeling it might not be for me and perhaps I needed something in between the CS69 in the Bridge and the SSL5. It doesn’t do all that to the tone but you will notice a slightly rolled of top so that might make them sound less vintage… I don’t know. Hi Brooks! Just Google Fralin pickups to check out his site. I am currently satisfied with my N3, but always look more vintage sounds. Are the other telecasters he is using right now (eg, 1952 Butterscotch Reissue) have stock pickups, or are they Seymour Duncans? bridge: DiMarzio FS1 A humbucker won’t fit in my lap steel without coring in to the body, which I don’t want to do, so I’m going to use a single coil. I prefer having all fuzz pedals first, then wah, the rest of the gains etc. http://www.stratcat.biz/ssl-1c-dg.shtml. Thanks, The first image showing the correct heights is incorrect. My tone preferences for pickups would be as follows. Hi Bjorn. I’m really not the one to answer this… I’m no expert on the technical stuff and I would have to open up my guitar to see. Ever tried one? I know this will serve to brighten it up a bit but I don’t know if this would have any effect on the output. You can get a pre-built loaded pickguard for that price now :), http://www.nicosusapickups.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=63. This web-site really is a boundless sourse of information for guitarist playinge in all styles of music and especially us Floyd fans. Hi Bjorn I have a mim fender strat and want to change the stock pickups in them. Thanks for the kind words, Kevin! Hi Bjorn – What an amazing resource you have built, thank you. Sorry for my late reply. If you simply can’t stand noisy single coil pickups, you might want to look into a humbucker. I never replaced those on one guitar. Will have some fun to see how they work with Amos and pedals now. John 15:13 Ministries - A Combat Veterans Outreach Ministry. I also am becoming aware of the some times subtle effects of too much Presence, Bass, Treble or Mids, etc, etc which really helps. I’m not going to go into my usual salespitch bout Fralins, as no one will take my word for it, and I will eventually get a set to Bjorn for review, but the whole point of this very long post is, a good set of vintage Fender style pickups cannot be bested IMO, and most of the tones he got from 71-76, were on a weak set of CBS Gray Bottom, low output ’71 Strat pups, and either ’50′s, , or ’60′s Fender RIs, or the many clones available, ie D. Allen, CS-69, Fat 50′s, or my beloved Fralin Vintage hots, will cover any DG tone with warmth, and balance! Thanks. What if I go for this sequence below: Guitar… EP Booster…Ego Compressor….Evoluotion… Vick 73 Ram’s Head… Mooer Elec Lady….Mooer Ensemble King Chorus…. I just had a quick question. BIG MISTAKE. They use #43 enamel coated wire. It’s also worth checking out the Mooer clones of these pedals, which are a bit cheaper and sound great. Sebastiano. One of the most versatile amps I’ve played and they handle pedals very well. The “frankenstein” you’re referring to feature Fender Tex/Mex (stock) neck and middle and a D Allen Voodoo Blues overwound bridge. Just thought I would point out this web site. – Bjorn]. – Bjorn]. I’m probably asking a lot, but really if you had my medical issues you would be amazed at how the sound being too far off makes my brain scream stop. It sure would make my board work out better, space wise! Would the sound be close to any pickups here? I agree with your philosophy. The HSS (which stands for humbucker-single-single) pickup configuration gained popularity in the 80s, much like everyone’s favorite haircut, the mullet. The Fender Signature and NOS Strats feature the SSL5. See Keith’s post as well for more tips. I’m using an Epi LP Standard. Thank you very much Bjorn for sharing your wisdom !! What do you think? The Texas Specials or some custom wounds would be fitting. any hints or thoughts appreciated. David used a 56 Goldtop with P90s. A single coil pickup is pretty much an exposed antenna picking up all kinds of electric radiation. Not sure about the models. My understanding of Texas Specials, which I have a personal experience with owning an SRV Strat at one point, is that they are overwound and hence have a higher output, and they sound like it. I also recently purchased a loaded Gilmour Style – 7 position pickguard from HD Custom Guitar supply. Hey Bjorn, I absolutely love your dedication to researching the Gilmour tone and I ask you this: Since I live in a relatively musically isolated and sort of poor country in Eastern Europe, and I’m trying to replicate Gilmour’s sound on a very humble 00s made in china squier special edition, I can’t seem to find a neck cs fat 50s anywhere except in sets, which are way too expensive and downright impractical for what I’m trying to achieve since Gilmour uses 3 different pups. Hi Bjorn So, have you played this pedal, and how does the fuzz stack up against the Fuzz Face? I also checked the Fralin pickups site and a couple of models caught my eye my worries are for songs like dogs or sheep would a hot pickup be too much or is vintage styling the way to go? I have a MIM Fender Classic player, 50s strat with stock Fender American vintage pickups. Wampler Plexidrive. The truth is that I can’t get my strat to sound more like a classic strat in that position. Fender CS 69 and S Duncan SSL-5 combo I’d like to know if you have any idea about why is this happening? Thank you for your reviews and this amazing site. Take care! I want to have a SD ssl-5 for a bridge pickup, and I’m thinking of cs69 or Texas specials for neck and middle. It is great for not only Floyd, but most anything I play. Thank you for you insight. If not, I’ll probably go with a set of 59’s. Lurker for years and first post. Fender Vintage-Style Locking Guitar Tuning Machines or Nice punch with some spank when the strings are plucked hard. Cheers! ), with a neck rated at 8k, and bridge is a fairly hot 10.5k. I can send you a check or do PayPal if you have an account. I haven’t been in contact with him for some time and I think he’s out of business. Can u look up my guitar and give me advice on some pickups for it please ? Thanks for reading this. Sounds very open and dynamic. BUZZ appears as a static caused by radio noise propagation from electrical components (motors, processors etc). i have all airbag album, great sound !! Do you know of anywhere I could get a set for less than $200 like they are on Guitar Center? Sound like the old SAs? Thanks for sharing! – Bjorn], This post is just because of the question about Tele Pups. The Fat 50s is somewhat similar to the Texas, so I wouldn’t go there. Also you might need to drill new holes for the screws! Bjorn, Neck & Middle: Texas Special (Comes with my guitar); CS69′; D.A. Or a gritty bridge if the amp is more on the clean side. He's powered by Jazz Guitar, Vietnamese Food, Hiking, and Beer. What’s your opinion on it? I haven’t read anything about led but I’m sure a Google search will shed some light on that. Hi Bjorn. Thanks for answer. The 69s are all 5.8k. Right now I have a Polytune mini, an OCD overdrive, a Keeley Dark Side, and a Hall of Fame Reverb pedal in that order. The CS69s, has scooped mids and a lower output. I don’t work for Fralin pickups, and receive zero for my praise – Bjorn]. First, the SSL5 has a dark, mid rangy tone so you should check that out before you start modding the guitar. They are 60 usd shipped by the way! My Fralin’s are safe in my other Strats, but these custom shop pickups are no joke, and the SSL5 will be employed in all of my Strats soon. Last thing is pickup heights change things a whole lot. To me it sounds really bad. Great bridge pickup for more sustain and bite. I was asking bout the SSL-1s, not SSL-5, and the differences in tone in the SSL-1s versus the CS 69s. Thanks for your time. I asked them to use two CS69s in the neck and middle and an SSL-5 in the bridge position. Any delay would do but check out the TC Electronics Flashback. middle and bridge SSL5 sound good, bring both up, or one up and the other lower? – Bjorn]. The SSL5 would be a better choice I think. 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